Thursday, September 04, 2008

  • Question of the Day: Controversial Topics?

    oaktreeby revelife crew

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    We’ve recently gotten feedback from folks indicating they didn't feel comfortable discussing their views here on revelife. Some folks felt like they were being attacked.

    Our hope is that revelife can be a place where we can openly discuss anything, including some of the really deep and difficult issues that go hand-in-hand with questions of faith and Christianity.

    But we also want people to feel comfortable here. So we would love your help. Is there any way you think we can address some of the more emotional and controversial topics without causing negative or hurtful reactions, or are there just some topics we should not discuss here on revelife?

Comments (88)

  • KechiNeko244@xanga

    Maybe abortion shouldn't be discussed? I mean, it is a very, very important issue, but because it's so important, people get really heated up about it. (myself included!) It is just my expirience that when people get really heated up, they start to be less civil to each other. That's when attacks and accusations start coming in.


    That's really the only thing I can think of, though.

  • Demetrios_of_Phaleron@xanga

    Well, if you never discuss any issue that has the potential to offend anyone, your range of topics is going to be very limited indeed.

  • Pickwick12@xanga

    Personally, I don't have a problem with things getting intense. I don't see why people who like intense discussion can't comment on the heated topics, while those who don't can avoid those topics?

    Everyone has a choice of what topics to engage in and what topics to pass by. I frequently skip Revelife posts if an issue comes up that is just too emotionally heated for me to feel like I can be reasonable. Everyone has that option.

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  • Crazy_Train_9000@xanga

    @Demetrios_of_Phaleron@xanga - Pretty much this. Someone is going to get offended no matter what the topic at hand. I'm open for discussion on pretty much anything.

  • kaitlyn_in_wonderland@xanga

    Everything is controversial. Just release a disclaimer. Basically "post at your own risk". Since no feelings are meant to be hurt anyways.

  • captain_jaq@xanga

    No. You can't go around preserving everyone's feelings. Healthy discussion wouldn't be stimulated and it would be...drab. I mean, I'm only interested in 10% of the articles on here anyway, but still. It'd be very drab.

    Push the envelope. Force people to think at things in new lights and interact with those who have other perspectives on certain issues.

  • mrcolorful@xanga

    I think that anytime you are discussing any issue with any importance there will be heated debate and even attacks.  If we run away from that as I've seen many do in my life then we wind up always being very superficial and that is in no way fulfilling God's desires for us.

    I admit that I haven't paid too much attention to the various debates on here but of the few I have paid attention to a large portion of them have involved non-believers coming on here to attack our beliefs.  I know that there is disagreement among believers also and that is just human nature but if attacks are being made in those discussions then I think we need to be exerting more effort to follow Jesus' example.

  • laytexduckie@xanga

    It's not really a matter of what you should and should not discuss, but rather those who read about it. Maybe at the beginning of the entry or even in the title, if you believe it might be a controversial topic, you can always place a warning. It will tell others what the entry will be about and if they feel they can't read it without overreacting or attacking, then it's the security level of the reader, not the content. After all, it is the reader's choice to read the entry. If you are curious enough (and mature) enough to read it, you are mature enough to respond back in a considerate manner without resorting to personal attacks. We all have our opinions and it only gets out of hand if one pushes their opinions onto another like saying, "No, you're wrong It should be only this way" and blah blah blah.

  • mrcolorful@xanga

    "Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me"  Matthew 5:11 (NIV)

  • Pass_the_Aura@xanga

    I'm no big fan of controversy for controversy's sake, and I'm openly antipathetic toward Internet Trolls. 

    One of the problems I have with the Internet in general (not just Revelife) is that someone will post a sensitive and intelligent thought on a subject, and someone else will post a comment saying "You are such an idiot to believe that; it's irrational and insane!"  Disheartening, even if it doesn't result in an unedifying quarrel.

    Perhaps what I'm getting at (I'm still going through this in my head) is not that we should be afraid of discussing any topic, but maybe there are some topics that the Internet isn't the best forum for intelligent dialogue about.

    I think (since we're Christians) our guidelines should be the ones found in Scripture.  May I suggest Colossians 4:5-6 as a start:

    "Walk in wisdom toward those who are outside, redeeming the time. Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer each one."

  • docsfancyskip@xanga

    If those topics can't be discussed on here, where can we discuss them? I think that it should be assumed that people will differ from one another, and maybe everyone should just take a deep breath before they comment? =)

  • Thessalonian

    Like most people are saying, there are going to be a lot of controversial topics and avoiding them is going to leave us with very little to discuss. As brothers and sisters in Christ we should be able to openly discuss any issues of faith with each other, but we should also do it respectfully. Not everyone is going to come to agreement at the end of all discussions, but we're being a terrible example to the world IF we argue like those who are OF the world (i.e., cursing, putdowns etc.)

    Eph 4:15; Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.

  • Biblerapture@xanga

    You might want to review the website statement concerning who you are (nondenominational Christian) and what purpose you intend on using this forum for in the first place.


    Intense discussion is fine with me. Disagreement is fine with me. I see no problem yet...


    Now if the thread poster purports to be something he/she is not(Christian vs non-Christian), then THAT is a different problem. At Revelife the focus should always be who we are in Christ (That is who a Christian is) and are we moving forward in our Faith and spiritual growth.


  • Nailed92@xanga

    There always going to be someone who is going to get offended over something, no matter what the topic. I think revelife should discuss the same topics as always.

  • Nikolais_apprentice@xanga

    The problem isn't the topics you choose, it's the people who are rude and unfair to others. 

  • megank1991@xanga

    There are certain people here who only intend to attack and insult people. I know there is one specific person whose only intent is to post short little posts, say nothing at all, then call anyone who disagrees with her stupid. There are also other people who only want to stir up controversy with other people. It's not the topics, it's the people discussing them. 

  • mrmaple

    There is controversy over whether or not the Holocaust or Armenian genocide were actually genocides.  There is also controversy over whether the moon landing was faked, if child pornography should be legalized, and whether blacks or women should be allowed to be president of the USA.  Not all controversy is helpful or even appropriate for endorsement.  At the risk of sounding elitist and stuck-up, I think that arguments made clearly for the sake of spite or malice or sheer stupidity (and I mean really stupid stuff) should be called trolling or squabbles or ramblings... but are definitely NOT worthy of the intellectual credibility of the term "debate".

  • Tom

    Many of the topics in question have been started with an offensive tone to them from the start, I think that leads to the controversy.  Sadly, it seems like sometimes that it's intended to cause fighting rather than discussion.

    For example the "Do atheists have morals?" question.  I don't remember the exact wording, but, it was worded poorly and many were offended by that part alone.  With that example asking "Where do atheists get their moral basis from?" might have been a better start.  At least then the debate that ensued would have been where the offense happened rather than in the wording of the question from the start.

    I know some have mentioned that revelife seems to be inviting controversy as much as possible, perhaps in an attempt to get more readers and ad revenue.  Nothing wrong with that. However, deliberately offending people with the heavily biased wording of the prompt isn't the way to do it.

    Glad to see that someone in leadership has came around and asked for input.  Hopefully this means a change for the better in the future.

  • Tom

    I know I said a lot above, but, I just thought of something worth adding.

    Given the anonymous nature of the internet people don't care as much for one another so much as there isn't any fear of "getting caught" so to speak.  Revelife/Xanga can't prevent that.

    I did notice that John came in on the abortion debate and asked people to play nice, I think that's a good touch.  A little moderation, or at least hints that someone is watching, may be a good thing in the future.  Even a "play nice" at the end of controversial topics could be of some help.

    In the end though, there is a theory that seems to be appropriate here, the theory is basically that a normal person given anonymity and an audience will do bad things.  I won't say the name of the theory, however, I will give a link to a comic where it is shown.  I must warn however, that the comic does contain profanity and is likely a bit controversial in itself.  So, you are warned. The Great Internet .... Theory

  • KangMeezy@xanga

    are you talking about censorship?

  • Doubledb@xanga

    A Revelife Ban on subjects? I do not think that is a good idea... if people do not like something, then they can stop reading or commenting. Especially in discussion and forums people need to have thick-skins on one hand and also learn to be understanding on the other - but I do not think it is the writers or subject at fault - but the responders. There will always be some people who complain but I think the vast majority would not care... I think it downgrades such sites to put bans on certian subjects or issues.

  • musterion99@xanga

    I like the sharing of different opinions and beliefs on here. Don't change it. It's obviously popular. Look at all the comments it gets.

  • siloam

    I have always appreciated the topics being discussed here at Revelife. I am too busy to make blog entries, but every now and then I hang around here because Revelife remains the best place for me to hang out. I may not always be posting comments, but I do read and I could see the problem on the "hot issues."


    I appreciate the way you handle things here, and am certainly grateful for your concerns. I think it's all right to keep on going, keep up what you've always done before.


    The problem, as I see it, is not about the topic but about how readers react to it. I have had blogs before at WordPress and have learned much from how others react, esp. those from the other side of the fence. The hot issue is neither the topic nor the topic writer, but the reader.


    We should all respect each other's views no matter how much we desperately disagree with those from the other side of the fence.

  • agnophilo@xanga

    In no way is controversy a bad thing.  It means people are thinking and communicating.  Human beings are not nearly as intelligent individually as we are when we combine our intellectual powers through debate, discussion and public discourse, controversy is the neurons of our collective consciousness firing.

    Nothing to be shunned or feared.

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