Wednesday, September 10, 2008

  • What's the Purpose of the Bible?

    willowleaf by mr willow

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    What. Have we done. With the Bible.

    What on earth is this catalog talking about so ungrammatically (is it that hard to say “better than we do”)?  To “do Bibles,” in the context of the advertisement, apparently means to sell them.  “Save, save, save” is marketing code for “Buy, buy, buy.”

    That doesn’t seem like much to be proud of.  Surely translating Bibles, giving them away, or producing hand-lettered illuminated manuscripts are more noteworthy endeavors.  But the marketer informs us that no one, absolutely no one, sells Bibles better than they.  Of course.  Excuse me a moment while I break into song: “You’re so vaaain; you prob’ly think this post is about you, don’t you, don’t yooooou….”

    Ahem.  Where was I?  Ah yes.  It’s clear that a lot of people, Christian or not, have missed something significant about the Bible.  When you’re dealing with any book, you have to know what its purpose is, or you won’t understand it correctly.  Most books don’t exist simply to make money (although you had better not get me started on The Secret.)

    Usually, the context of the book itself will give you important clues as to why it was written.  Miss those, though, and you will likely misinterpret the whole thing.  Have you ever read an interpretation of Alice in Wonderland as a serious Freudian allegory of Lewis Carroll’s repressed desires?  No?  Lucky you.

    Obviously, that approach to Alice, even if it’s true (of which I’m skeptical), overlooks most of the things that make the book worth reading in the first place.  But how many of our approaches to the Bible commit the same error?

    Often in Christian devotions, you’ll see the Bible compared to “a love letter from God.”  But just put the Bible next to any love letter.  Whoever makes the comparison clearly isn’t familiar with the contents of the Bible, or hasn’t gotten many love letters, or both.  Love letters are full of gushy sentimentality; the Bible—well, isn’t. 

    And what about the skeptics who read the Bible like the lawyer in the old story, “looking for loopholes”?  Of course, it’s well known that if one sentence in an obscure chapter of the Bible seems to indicate that an ancient king committed what might appear to us to be a war crime, why then the whole book must be without any value at all!  This approach often borders absurdity:  I once saw the same angry atheist express, in the space of three comments, his opinion that Christians were fools to believe in absolute morality, and his outrage that the God of the Bible was so absolutely immoral.

    One thing I’ve noticed, though, is that (very interestingly) people’s attitudes about the Bible generally reflect their attitudes toward God.  The antitheist who hates God reads the Bible and sees God presented as a hateful being.  The atheist who thinks God is a myth reads the Bible and sees mythology.  The self-righteous Pharisee who sees God as a law-giver reads the Bible and sees a book of rules.  The sentimental church lady reads her favorite happy psalms and is inspired.  The person who’s getting tired of church leaves the Bible on the shelf.

    Does that mean that the Bible is purely subjective, and any meaning we find in it is one we bring to it? Of course not; it says what it says, and anyone can find that out with a bit of study.  It does mean, though, that perhaps when people object to the Bible, their objection reveals more about them than about the Book.

    So what about the book?  If all these approaches to it are suspect, what approach could we gather from looking at the book itself?

    There’s this man named Jesus of Nazareth who figures very prominently in the Bible, for reasons that should be obvious to most Christians.  A very good portion is spent foreshadowing what He would do when He arrived, or recounting the details of His life, or reflecting on the results of what He did.  So if a person as significant as Jesus had something to say about the Bible, it should be a very substantial piece in our understanding of the book.

    (Guess what that was leading up to.)

    Jesus on the central theme of the book:

    And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself….  Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.”  And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures. –Luke 24:27, 44-45

        * According to Jesus, the central theme of the Bible is—Himself.  Everything in the Scripture, whether in the Law of Moses, the charges of the prophets, or the prayers of the Psalms, points in some way to Jesus.  That would be mind-bogglingly arrogant for anyone to say about themselves… unless it was true.  Yet the effect of listening to Jesus was a better understanding and comprehension of the Scriptures.

    Jesus on a summary of the book in two sentences:

    Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying, “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”  Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’  This is the first and great commandment.  And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.” –Matt 22:35-40

        * There’s Jesus’ “Readers’ Digest version” of the teachings of the Bible: Love God, love your neighbor.  According to Jesus, all the teachings of the Bible are, in some way, expositions of those two ideas.  In other words, if you say you understand the Bible, but you don’t love God or your neighbor, something’s probably wrong somewhere.  And probably not with the Bible.

    Jesus on the origin of the book:

    “But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God, saying,  ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.” –Matthew 22:31-32

        * That is one doozy of a sentence: The words that you read in a certain book can have precisely the same effect as though God was speaking directly to you.  And which book is that?  You guessed it.

    Jesus on why some people just don’t get the book:

    You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. –John 5:39-40

        * Jesus has two strong points here:  First, all of the Scriptures “bear witness about me,” in other words, as He said elsewhere, the whole Bible is about Him.  Second, even this is no substitute for coming to Him yourself.

    This last verse was originally spoken to religious people who had a thorough academic knowledge of the Scriptures.  Yet Jesus contended that even they had missed the point.  The most important thing is, as Jesus put it, to “come to me that you may have life,” and no amount of book-knowledge can substitute for that.

    Perhaps this applies to the skeptics as well.  Suppose we really did find a genuine logical or factual contradiction in the Bible somewhere that couldn’t be reconciled through a better understanding of language, context, or culture.  (If you think you have, I’d recommend checking it out with the Christian Think Tank or Tektonics before crowing too loudly.)  That would be interesting, maybe, but it wouldn't change the real issue: If Jesus is who He claims He is, then He is the only true source of eternal life.  An error in a book doesn’t change that.  If you don’t believe in Jesus, the issue you should be thinking through is Jesus Himself.

    Let me put the point of all this in one word.  A man in a hurry once asked R. A. Torrey if he could say in one word the best way to study the Bible.  Torrey replied, “That is a lot of weight to put on just one word, but if I had to, the word would be… Thoughtfully.”

    A flippant, shallow reading (or marketing!) just isn’t going to cut it.  But read the Bible thoughtfully looking for the truth about Jesus, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if you found it.

    What is your attitude toward the Bible?

Comments (33)

  • UberGoobah@xanga

    My attitude towards the Bible? I'm waiting on the next edition. When is that due out?

  • nbdispurfctbtucntry@xanga

    It's a shame it has been translated so many times. It looses the real
    meaning and changes things that were never meant to be said and then treats lightly the more important things.

  • I_will_delete_this_in_6_months@xanga

    @nbdispurfctbtucntry@xanga - That's why you study the Greek and Hebrew.  You'll be amazed what you find there.

  • Pickwick12@xanga

    Normally I agree with you, but this bothered me a bit.

    First of all, if the Bible had a true error? Then it's all false. Jesus is the Word of God. I agree with you that the Bible is about Him. If something in the Bible is fallible, then none of it is true. It's all true, or it's all a lie, because Jesus is the Word of God, and the Bible reveals Him. An true error in the Bible (in inspiration, not translation or transcription) would mean that God committed an error. If that happened, the whole gospel would be false.

    Second, the Bible is a love letter because God is love. Just because it doesn't read like a human love letter, it doesn't mean it's not loving. Because God is love, all of His acts are love. If Jesus is the central theme of the Bible (which I agree with 100%), then it must be a love letter, a letter that reveals love more than any other letter ever has. I agree it's not sentimental, but it is all about love from cover to cover because it's all about God. God doesn't ever do or say anything that is unloving. If it's about Him, it's about love.

    I agree that we need to read the Bible for what it says and not for our own interpretations, even though it's impossible to escape doing this entirely.

    I dunno, maybe it's a fault in me. The tone of this post got to me. I believe the Bible is entirely about Jesus. I also believe we shouldn't treat it lightly. Maybe I'm reacting because I used to be afraid of the Bible. When I read it now, though, love jumps out at me: love on every page because God is on every page. Knowing the Bible is no substitute for knowing Christ personally, but the Bible is a huge aid in helping us to know Him if we come to it with an open heart. On that I'm sure we probably agree.

  • I_will_delete_this_in_6_months@xanga

    Excellent post.  Yeah, we often lose sight of what the Bible is about.  Thanks for helping me out there.  

  • musterion99@xanga

    What is your attitude toward the Bible?

    I need it daily. Jesus said, "Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God."

    And it gives me faith - "Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God."

  • bubbadirt@xanga

    This post was way to stinking long!!! And I loved every bit of it. I could get to like you.


    The bible to me? It's like the greatest treasure ever burried. But not in a cave, not in the sand on a deserted island. Burried under the news papers on the coffee table. Burried under that novel that I feel I just must read. What if we lived our whole life looking for burried treasure and we never knew how close it really was.


    The bible is more than just a treasure. I actually feel something soothing in my soul as I read. As if I am in the arms of God himself. Justly likened to a drink of water to a parched throat.


    Hidden in it's pages in plain view is a life here and now so wonderful that if we will but drink it's potient we would be transformed.


    In short. I find life not so much in it's pages but while reading it's pages. As if God permiates my very soul as I seek him.


    I believe a blind man could find God if he knew what he held in his hands. It's that special.  

  • LadyLibellule@xanga

    "Most books don’t exist simply to make money..."

    I'm sure publishers would be surprised to hear this.

  • mrwillow

    @Pickwick12@xanga - Perhaps it might help if I explain that I wrote this after a friendly dialogue with an atheist who said he abandoned Christianity after supposedly finding errors in the Bible.  Thus my remarks on that topic are a common philosophical strategy: "I don't think we need to grant that premise, but say for the sake of argument that we did: I still don't think we would have sufficient grounds to reject the whole of Christianity."  If I found an actual error in the Bible (which I haven't, and after reviewing the proposed candidates, I don't think I'm likely to), it would significantly change my view of the Bible, to be sure, but I'd like to think in that hypothetical extremity I would wind up still believing in Jesus, the Gospel, and so forth.

    In other words, it's not that I believe in Jesus because I believe the Bible: it's that I believe in the Bible because I believe Jesus.

    On "love letter," I do agree with the way you put it, of course.  However, I've heard the phrase used in a very shallow and superficial way by other people, suggesting that they had completely missed the centrality of Christ in the Scripture, and that's probably what made me react to it.

    I think we agree on all the rest.

  • Pickwick12@xanga

    @mrwillow - I do agree with everything, except that I don't grant your first premise. We can't grant errors in the Bible, if they are actual errors. We can grant that we might misunderstand something, but if there's an actual error, then we're nowhere. I believe that one actual error would be sufficient grounds to reject the whole of Christianity. Jesus is not independent of the Bible, because He chose to reveal Himself through it. If it's wrong, anywhere, then so is He, and therefore it-and He-are wrong everywhere. It didn't have to be that way, of course, but it is because He made it this way.

    I understand what you're saying for the sake of the argument, but I don't believe that's a premise we can ever grant.

    I agree with your comments about the love letter idea and the other things.

    Thanks for responding

  • SandraDeeDees@xanga

    @UberGoobah@xanga - Very well put! The next revised and improved version that is more about seeking truth would be nice.


    I thought this post was going to be about the materialism and commercialism of Christianity and I was going to clap for someone pointing it out. Alas, I was somewhat disapointed.


    @Pickwick12@xanga - Actually, I would say that at least 3/4 of the bible is about the wrathful God of the OT. While there is a Jesus-like story in the OT, it is not about Jesus. Since at least 3/4 is OT, it is not all love and peace--its actually downright hateful toward women, other religions, and other nations that are not Hebrew.  Even Jesus himself says that he does not come in peace, but with a sword. I'm sure there is some deeper sweeter meaning there that I have missed, but I REAALLY need help finding that deeper secret of the bible.....BTW--if the message of love is so paramount, why is it so hard to find in the text (at least of the OT). I think it would be easier to find love outside of doctrine--SAVE SAVE SAVE paper and open your mind to the universal truth.

  • Pickwick12@xanga

    @SandraDeeDees@xanga - If you would really like answers to your issues with the Bible-hatred toward women (which is completely a human invention, not actually in the Bible) and the others, I have answers and would love to provide them. Will you send me a private message if you're interested?

    I generally don't expect to agree with you, given the usual perspective of your comments, but I very much appreciate you responding to me.

  • mrwillow

    @Pickwick12@xanga - I think we agree-- I'm not granting the premise, just saying if for the sake of argument we had to grant it, here is what the implications might be. "If we had some ham, we could have have some ham and eggs if we had some eggs."  I think it works out to a different conclusion than, say, if we supposed somebody discovered Jesus' corpse.  But of course, there's nothing remotely like good evidence of either.

  • Pickwick12@xanga

    @mrwillow - Hmm-maybe we do agree.

    I guess my thing is this: It's not philosophically sound to get to a good conclusion using faulty premises.

    If I were your friend, I would balk at accepting the premise and still believing. I tend to agree with him that if the Bible really is faulty, there's nothing to stand on. It's not logical to deny Jesus (by denying the infallibility of Scripture) and then affirm Him (by affirming His Person). It's the law of non-contradiction. Both can't be true.

  • SandraDeeDees@xanga

    @Pickwick12@xanga - I suppose it is all in your interpretation and seeing what you want to see. I see using examples of nations as the defiled harlot who needs her skirt lifted over her head for all to see her shame as an analagy for a deep-seated hatred of women. I doubt that God would personally ever think or say such things. I think that those words have come from the mouths of angry/scared priests. I will certainly ponder your offer of private conversation. If you would like me to reply privately in the future. Your wish is my command--how biblical that sounds. *COMMAND*

  • SandraDeeDees@xanga

    @Pickwick12@xanga - Oh wait--one more thing? WTF (excuse my implied language at least it isn't using the lord's name in vain) do you mean that you can't validate Jesus as person and not believe scripture? Jesus was a real, living human being and he did not personally write ANY of the scripture (as far as I know--correct me if I am wrong).

  • aznLegacy@xanga

    bible: the most epic romance in all of time and history!

  • RuthViola@xanga

    Well said. It's hard to read the Bible apart from preconceived notions, but the more you read it, the more you see of the true message. Just remember, the first thing to do when studying the Bible is to pray for guidance. If you're truly seeking, the Holy Spirit will guide you.

  • viola1032_v2@xanga

    @nbdispurfctbtucntry@xanga - "It's a shame it has been translated so many times. It looses the real meaning and changes things that were never meant to be said and then treats lightly the more important things."

    Unfortunately, that is what we need to do.  Otherwise, how will people of different languages know and understand?  Not everyone has the opportunity (or even the ability) to learn a foreign language to a proficiency where they can understand the implications.

    Of course, if you're talking about the various styles (like NIV, or NKJ, NIASB), there probably are too many "versions", but sometimes those styles were written in order to communicate the message of the bible in a certain sub-cultural terminology.

  • too_pretty_to_die@xanga

    for me, the Bible is an interesting combination of allegory, spiritual instruction and pseudo-history.  but it is far from infallible or correct.  i don't need the Bible to support or prove my faith. 

    it should also be pointed out that the Bible has meaning only to Christians. 

  • lomal@xanga

    Our 8th Articles of Faith says, “We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. We also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.”


    While I know this to be true because of the witness of the Holy Spirit to my spirit, I am the first to admit that it was the Bible that started me on the road to faith. As I began in Genesis and read through to Revelation, praying and pondering as I went, the love I felt from God grew in me until it became a real and recognizable thing. The voice of the Lord became so clear that I could hear it in the promptings I had once passed over. Communing with my Father in Heaven is the foundation of my spiritual growth. The Bible was the stone upon which my spiritual house began and continues to rise.

  • Pickwick12@xanga

    @SandraDeeDees@xanga - Actually, I believe that Jesus wrote every word of the Bible. He's God, and God wrote every word of the Bible using human authors.

    Please do feel free to message me. I don't want to argue just for the sake of argument, but if you want to discuss, I'd like to.

  • naphtali_deer@xanga

    "There’s this man named Jesus of Nazareth who figures very prominently
    in the Bible, for reasons that should be obvious to most Christians."

    Right, yet, Jesus was all about His Father's glory, hallowing His Father's Name and doing His Father's business. God's plan of salvation is all to the praise of His glorious grace. (See Ephesians 1.) For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen. Romans 11:36.

    I think we need to look at the overarching plan of salvation in which the Father, the Son and Spirit all participate. We sometimes focus on Jesus and neglect to see the Father's planning of salvation and the Spirit's work in translating us from death to life.

    "But read the Bible thoughtfully looking for the truth about Jesus, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if you found it."

    The Bible is God's Word and cannot be read as any other book. It can only be understood as the Spirit opens our eyes to understand it (See I Cor. 2).

    He said to them, But who do you say that I am? 16 Simon Peter replied, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered him, Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. Matthew 16:15-17.

  • nicolevw@xanga

    The Bible to me is the Holy, inspired, infallible Word of God.  The very fact that it was put together by many different human authors- all inspired by the Holy Spirit and preserved for so many years is amazing.  All of it - the OT and the NT fit together.  You cannot understand the NT without the OT.   The entire OT is filled with Christ - foreshadowing Him and all that He entails.  The OT is not just women-hating, horrible things .....it's the history of redemption.   The more I study the Bible, the more I read and hear about it from the pulpit the more I'm amazed at what God has given us - a gift!


    naphtali_deer - you posted well.  I totally agree that you need the working of the Holy Spirit to understand it and see it.  Much like, in order to have faith, it must be given to you by the Spirit as well.


    Well written post mr. willow!  I look forward to reading more from you!

  • JandJinJapan@xanga

    The Bible is God's message and letter of love to a dying and hopelessly lost (without Jesus Christ) world.