Wednesday, October 15, 2008

  • Fisher Price Doll Plays Subliminal Islamic Message?

    pine by mr pine 

    Before reading any of the rest of this entry, listen to this clip, and see if you hear anything.

    *recording from Mattel's website

    This is apparently the new face of Islamic proselytizing...
    muslim

    I remember back in the 80's (yes, I'm that old), there was an uproar about "back-masking" where people thought that if you played certain recordings backward, you could hear hidden messages.  Some Christians were saying that they could be subliminal messages used to encourage satanism.  There was even legislation brought up to discourage recording companies from doing it.

    I remember a friend of mine modified a record player so that we could play vinyl records backward, and we spent the better part of a Saturday afternoon ruining his father's rock record collection listening for "hidden" messages... (which makes me wonder if the whole controversy wasn't made up by the recording industry to increase replacement sales of their records).

    So what happens when you release a 10 year-old's imagination onto many hours of garbled sound?  Well, we heard all kinds of things ranging from "eat your tomatoes" to "Ba Ba Ba Ba Barabbas" to "Satan is my king and master of my thoughts and well-being" (you really had to strain to hear that last one).  Okay, maybe that's not exactly what we heard, but we came up with some doosies.

    Now there's this controversy about a doll (above) that apparently says, "Islam is the light," and some people are up in arms about it.  They're claiming that the doll could imprint this message into the minds of impressionable kids and are demanding that they be taken off store shelves.

    My first thought when I heard the story... "what kind of stupid company would put something in there like that if they wanted to maximize their sales to non-Muslim Americans?"  My next thought was, "if someone put it in there as a joke, what kind of quality control does this company have?"  But I never thought that this was some part of an Islamic conspiracy to turn 3-7 year-old girls into Muslims.  At worst, I thought that maybe it was something a company did because some "diversity" wahoo in their company mandated it.

    But then I heard the controversial clip for myself (from snopes.com)...

    (It's toward the end)

    C'mon.  That's a stretch.  The only reason I heard it was because I was thinking it.

    Try this... I think it actually says, "God is the Light"  Play it again thinking that.

    The point is that I think you hear what you want to hear for the most part, and this whole "controversy" is just adding to the stereotype that Christians are on a hair-trigger to be offended by anything and everything that is non-Christian.  I think this is more damaging to the Christian message than anything a talking toy does or does not say.

    To me it wouldn't matter if the audio actually changed to a deep baritone voice saying, "Kneel before Beelzebub, and while you're at it, I need a new diaper."  As long as they allow for returns, if Mattel thinks something like that can sell in the U.S., more power to them.  I mean, I would probably advise my Christian friends to think whether or not they want their child to have it, but I wouldn't call for a ban on them.  They have the right to sell them in the same way that I have a right not to buy them.  It's voting with your money (which I think Christians should be more aware of in other areas than this).

    Well, I guess we won't know for sure unless in ten years we see a spike in 13-17 year-old girls (and in-touch-with-their-nurturing-side boys) converting over to Islam en masse.  But I doubt it will happen.

    Did you hear the subliminal message?

Comments (122)

  • EilisAngelos@xanga

    Wow. Honestly, it sounds like baby garble to me. I really think you have to be thinking it in order to hear that.

    People need to find better things to do. Protesting that seems like a waste of time and energy to me.

  • Papillon_Mom@xanga

    I can't hear it at work, and haven't heard it yet.  But I've seen this other places too, and I tend to agree with you.

  • Pickwick12@xanga

    No kid is going to hear it saying that. For goodness' sake! That is a big enough stretch to run a marathon in. 

  • ChrisRusso@xanga

    "The point is that I think you hear what you want to hear for the most
    part, and this whole "controversy" is just adding to the stereotype
    that Christians are on a hair-trigger to be offended by anything and
    everything that is non-Christian.  I think this is more damaging to the
    Christian message than anything a talking toy does or does not say."

    ^Absolutely.

    How many people are going to look at this "controversy" and say, "Man, those Christians will get offended by the stupidest things!"  It makes us all look bad.

  • too_pretty_to_die@xanga

    i refuse to entertain conspiracy theories.  

  • HeartOfPandora@xanga

    "you hear what you want to hear"

    My thoughts exactly.  :)

  • Pass_the_Aura@xanga

    I'm pretty sure it was actually saying, "Buy dolls from Fisher-Price."

  • desertrose2890@xanga

    What kind of bigoted post is this? Are you kidding me...you are essentially equating Islam with Satan and decrying that a doll might possibly convert little girls to become evil Muslims. I am Muslim and this post is completely offensive. 


     Im sure the doll has nothing to do with Islam but you make it seem like it could be part of some "Islamic conspiracy". In fact, the whole tone of the article seems to treat Islam as some evil entity and a threat. 
    It is neither evil nor a threat. Yes, I understand that the Muslim world is now under the international spotlight but there is a big difference between Osama Bin Laden and ordinary Muslims. It's almost like putting Timothy McVeigh as the face of Christianity. Is that really fair to an entire religion consisting of one billion people? 
    Think before you write something as clearly bigoted as this or clarify your point. 
  • Theophilus166@xanga

    @desertrose2890@xanga - I don't think the point of this was to say that Islam is evil, I think it was about how people overreact. 

    That said, I do think Islam is evil.  I've had some Muslim friends who are very good and moral people, but as a Christian I believe any religious view that doesn't have Jesus at the center is evil. It stands in direct contrast to what I believe is reality.  It's not politically correct, I know.  But I can't deny the words of Jesus in order to accommodate someone else.

  • abbylyne@xanga

    Wow, dumbass. You just equated Satanism with Islam.

    Understanding world religions epic FAIL!

  • TornadoChaser@momaroo

    Creepy but all talking dolls are creepy anyway.

    I'm sure you were just comparing the "you hear what you want to hear" but I do agree that having both "There's satan messages in records" and "Islam converting doll" in the same post really doesn't come across well.

    I find it amusing and sad that on one side there's a single muslim dating site and on the other a satanic super store ad. I didn't know satan had a super store. Gotta love advertising by keywords.

  • mrpine

    @desertrose2890@xanga - I never intended to equate Islam with satanism.  If you're talking about the last line (the question), I did not write that.  With the featured entries, I have no control over the title nor the question at the end.  Besides, I think the question was meant to be taken sarcastically because I know the editors of this site go out of their way to try not to offend people.


    In fact, as I was editing my original entry, I came across other local news clips of reporters using taglines along the line of "Doll with an evil message" and thought that was completely unfair and very bigotted.


    My point was that even if the doll did say "Islam is the light," I think it's wrong that people are making a big deal out of it, because it's NOT offensive to me.  And then I used an extreme example of Beelzebub that could be seen as offensive by more people and STILL I would not be offended.  It's their right to sell what they want.


    So, I apologize if you felt that I was attacking the Muslim faith.  I was not.

  • Asok_Yeesrim@xanga

    Yeah, we definitely don't want any more muslims in the world. Maybe we should just shoot them all in the head right now so they don't further damage their own souls or corrupt the innocent Americans.

    You make Jesus cry.

  • loveandpolitics@xanga

    I have to say people who make controversies about dolls and back-masking are turning Christianity into a bigger and bigger joke every day.

  • hotpinkstarberry@xanga

    I saw that on a video a few days ago it's scary.

  • aaronmcnees@xanga

    "Kneel before Beelzebub, and while you're at it, I need a new diaper."

    that's what i heard, yep.

  • Axis_of_Doom@xanga

    @TornadoChaser@momaroo - That just gave me an idea. What if you put demon horns and red eyes on the muslim lady in the muslim dating ad? That's all satirical btw, but hilarious. At least I think so. 

  • nicolevw@xanga

    I know this isn't quite along the same idea here, but what if there was a doll out there - a talking doll that was programmed to say "Jesus is the only Way to the Father" .........would there be an uproar????

  • chiltons99@xanga

    Sometimes I wonder what in the world people are doing with their time.  Yes, I know - I have lots of things I really need to do besides blog - but playing baby dolls backwards??  Brings a whole new meaning to things to do on a rainy day!  (Actually, after re-reading the blog - it doesn't really say if the baby doll says it forwards or backwards...)


    Seriously though, as a Christian, I wouldn't want any other "religion" being promoted anywhere, especially in a country founded on Christian principles.  BUT - God is still in control.  Nothing happens without Him allowing it, and the worse this old world gets, well, the closer it is to Him coming back.  That's not to say I'm gonna go out and cheer for all the bad things, I'm just saying we have a hope that no other "religion" (I hate using that word) has.


    It's easy to solve this one for Christian parents - buy your children dolls that do nothing.  If they make no sound - they can't promote Allah when they speak backwards...or forwards!


    ~ He's comin' back soon! ~

  • jnathanroy@xanga

    gosh. when i saw the headline i was all ready to chew out the writer for being an intolerant idiot, but that wasn't necessary. thanks!

  • Axis_of_Doom@xanga

    @jnathanroy@xanga - Apparently some people (see above) already did. I was actually expecting the author to be "intolerant" as people tend to see it but I didn't find any intolerance in the entry itself, and yet people here automatically assumed that the author was comparing Islam to Satanism. Interesting, eh?

  • Sirius_Fan_Girl@xanga

    It really did sound more like "God is the light" to me too... or really more like "Iglaammm da light."

  • rachelserine@xanga

    i was wondering how long it would take before this showed up on revelife! :) 

    people hear what they want to hear or what they are preconditioned to hear, that's for sure.  I heard it on the radio before they ever said what it was and there was NO way i could get islam is the light out of it.   :)

    unfortunately, some people have and are going to freak out...

  • mrpine

    @Extremegoatmaster@xanga - thank you for getting it.  I guess sarcasm is hard to convey in writing. 


    I think it's ironic that the article was about how I hate how Christians are on a hair-trigger to be offended and then was the target of the vitriol.

  • jnathanroy@xanga

    @abbylyne@xanga - before you post profanity on a christian-themed blog, you might want to read the blog and see if your accusation is true. the author did NOT compare islam with satanism, or even say that the toy in question had a subliminal message. in fact, it was quite the opposite.

    the point of this post was not to call oversensitive religious egomaniacs to arms, as it very well could have been if it had been decrying Islam. but it showed no dislike of Islam. it satirized the idea that people are so freaked out about.


    anyway. chill and try to see the theme and tone of a piece before you lash out.

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